Ben Cardin actually said...

I want to stop you for a moment, because, in your testimony, you come up with a good recommendation that there be voluntary norms of respons...

we need to make sure that we have the protocols in place so we can protect the security of our country.

I think that those are good suggestions. I agree that the technology at NIST needs to be better understood.

I find your testimony to be very, very helpful. And it does underscore the point that it is complicated.