Ben Cardin actually said...

I think this is critical to trying to understand the espionage laws.

there has to be a transparent process for declassifying that information if it is going to be made available to the public.

The purpose of this hearing was for us to gather information, to get better informed, and to start a record in this Committee as to the chal...

I think as Mr. Smith said, changing the definition is one I think we all would agree needs to be done.