Ben Cardin actually said...

"I think that is very helpful. It is very positive."

"We have had a great track record on all of these programs."

"I think it is important for us to try to modernize those programs and make them even more effective."

"When you compare the success of NAWCA with Federal mandates which most often do not achieve conservation goals but give States unnecessary economic pain, it's clear that the voluntary programs should ..."