Ben Cardin actually said...

Are they not helping us, they are helping North Korea. Are they not?

But when you have the livelihood exemption being interpreted in a way that China is interpreting it, it is a loophole that effectively takes...

But do you not agree that China could very easily put the type of pressure on North Korea that would change the equation here?

We all know--we certainly agree that a change in China's behavior is a prerequisite for getting a change in North Korea's behavior.