Ben Cardin actually said...

"Well, you know, these are numbers--I think this is what Mr. Muhlhausen and Chief LoBuglio both are agreeing on, and that is, we need better statistical information to evaluate what works and what does..."

"I could not agree more with Senator Sessions and with the witnesses about evaluating the way programs are currently working."

"I do, though, agree that we have a real shortage of residential programs available for inmates who are going to be released in our communities that can provide comprehensive services so that a person ..."

"I do not want this hearing to conclude without mentioning housing."