Ben Cardin actually said...

"your numbers are really very impressive, and I see your enthusiasm is paying off for the people that you supervise."

"Judge Bartle's program is saving us a lot of money."

"Well, you know, these are numbers--I think this is what Mr. Muhlhausen and Chief LoBuglio both are agreeing on, and that is, we need better statistical information to evaluate what works and what does..."

"I could not agree more with Senator Sessions and with the witnesses about evaluating the way programs are currently working."