Ben Cardin actually said...

as Senator Cardin said, many of the private sector do not want to identify that they have been attacked, for fear of losing the good will.

I think that those are good suggestions. I agree that the technology at NIST needs to be better understood.

I want to stop you for a moment, because, in your testimony, you come up with a good recommendation that there be voluntary norms of respons...

All I am suggesting is, make it more visible, because, if you do not do it, no other country will.