Barbara Mikulski actually said...

And I know Senator Shelby feels the same passion I do.

I will say, having been through this path before, I am cautiously optimistic that we are on the path to get that accomplished.

I believe that there is a real commitment on this subcommittee, and people like Senator Tom Coburn had excellent ideas.

I believe that there hasn't been nationally, in every agency, the kind of vigor that we need really in pursuing Medicare and Medicaid fraud.