Barbara Mikulski actually said...

I think there does need to be adequate training, and I think that is a core function of what these grant-making entities need to do.

I am here to pinpoint.

Well, in light of what has happened, I think there are going to be a lot of recommendations, and we would welcome your views on that.

We are not going to go back to the boondoggle that we had with the previous attempt.