Michael Capuano actually said...

But these case histories are not based on taxpayer dollars doing this. These case histories are on shareholders' dollars doing it, not taxpa...

It certainly strikes me that, in theory, if these individuals acted badly, the company is a victim as much as anybody else.

So you don't think it is possible to split it out?

This is taxpayer dollars. This is not Enron. This is not WorldCom. We are not shareholders. We are taxpayers.