John Kerry: “A lot of lessons learned from that about inclusivity and having a stake in the process.”

We are competing, but everybody has their own approach, which is one of the exciting things here.

I think we have to look at this beyond the China.

We are not, I have not, President Biden has not, we are not saying to people, you should not fly.

Back-up baseload, no. But, some primary they could be part of it.