John Kerry: “So isn't it fair to say that, in fact, there is an aspect about our budget today that is starkly different?”

We are not, I have not, President Biden has not, we are not saying to people, you should not fly.

But, we could with battery. We could with-- there's ways to make that work.

The message is, let's find a way to be able to make sure when we fly, we're not leaving emissions that we cannot capture.

Back-up baseload, no. But, some primary they could be part of it.