John Kerry: “I would not give up this fight if there was a chance that we would prevail, but it is now clear that even when all the…”

In terms of global challenges and U.S. interests, yes.

Back-up baseload, no. But, some primary they could be part of it.

But, we could with battery. We could with-- there's ways to make that work.

The message is, let's find a way to be able to make sure when we fly, we're not leaving emissions that we cannot capture.