John Kerry: “We have to see it in the context of 2011 and of this changing reality.”

Without a border protected you don’t have a nation.

We are not, I have not, President Biden has not, we are not saying to people, you should not fly.

Back-up baseload, no. But, some primary they could be part of it.

The message is, let's find a way to be able to make sure when we fly, we're not leaving emissions that we cannot capture.