John Kerry: “I realize that you, along with Congressmen Frank and Keating, are concerned about the unused rollover.”

None. We're not paying them for that.

We do not trade any component of any of those other issues for what we are trying to do on the climate front.

We are not, I have not, President Biden has not, we are not saying to people, you should not fly.

Well, she is, in regard to, writ large, the energy policy. Sure, she is the primary.