John Kerry: “Is this a good cop/bad cop routine, or is it something more thoughtful than that?”

We are not, I have not, President Biden has not, we are not saying to people, you should not fly.

In terms of global challenges and U.S. interests, yes.

Without a border protected you don’t have a nation.

The message is, let's find a way to be able to make sure when we fly, we're not leaving emissions that we cannot capture.