10/17/1963
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"If we spend these trillions of dollars, and we go through all this displacement, and we don't get cooperation from China and India, what--is the pain worth the gain?"
"Do you think it will be less by the end of this year."
"Will it be higher at the end of this year, or will it be less?"
"Okay. What makes you think that?"