10/21/2009
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"Although, I do have to say and I'll quit, because I know I am over time, but the question about cross subsidization..."
"I think of this kind of like a Goldilocks problem, too hot or too cold in terms of the Government intervention."
"The question is whether or not these can all exist simultaneously or the market will drive away from, in effect, the mutual pool."
"But when you sit on this side, you have got to write the law in the fear that we are going to be there someday."