05/16/2023
https://www.congress.gov...
"The only thing you can come up with is, well, maybe you will cut travel, which means there will be less enforcement."
"This was a policy that was designed to traumatize children and families as a way of scaring them away from the border."
"So let me ask again the specific question: Were you involved in developing or implementing the policies that led to children being taken away from their parents at the border?"
"So is that a no, you will not cut?"