12/23/2021
https://www.msnbc.com...
"I understand that."
"Your leadership has always been knowledgeable, thoughtful, principled, and it has been a great honor to serve with you."
"I think that we cannot just make this about the banks. It has got to be the whole chain here."
"Oh, I am not talking about telling them which vendors to use. What I am just trying to understand is the process by which you are monitoring--the risk comes in all the way up and down the chain."