05/09/2023
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"We have prevented 99 percent of listed species from going extinct because of the Act, but it always depends upon the best science."
"If China is now playing into this, then ultimately the likelihood of them actually making the concessions are very slim."
"There is no evidence that it is working. In fact, there is evidence that it is not working."
"I do not see--think the meeting, in and of itself, signifies progress. I think it is a first step."