The heart of this issue is not -- and this is what the Democrats have to make clear, that it's not whether the country is going to be strong against terrorism and fight it effectively. The question is whether we're going to use torture techniques in interrogating those people we capture, especially water-boarding.
Gergen highlighted the central debate regarding the use of torture techniques in the context of national security.
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If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.
I don't think Trump is out of the woods, even though his poll numbers are not only staying up, they have actually been strengthened some.
I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?
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