David Gergen actually said...

The heart of this issue is not -- and this is what the Democrats have to make clear, that it's not whether the country is going to be strong against terrorism and fight it effectively. The question is whether we're going to use torture techniques in interrogating those people we capture, especially water-boarding.

Context

Gergen highlighted the central debate regarding the use of torture techniques in the context of national security.

10/31/2007

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