Richard Lugar actually said...

"Let me follow through on a comment that one of you made, that there may be 20,000 North Koreans in South Korea as refugees."

"It would not appear to me that we have been particularly aggressive in our own policies or our own organization of this."

"What if--I would ask of any of you--a situation occurs in which the regime succession does not work out quite in the pattern that has been prescribed?"

"I think we're fooling ourselves to think that, when the family is replaced, that suddenly, you know, Hosanna, they'll have a--they'll see the world as we do."