Richard Lugar actually said...

It is often little understood or little noted, unless there is a crisis in the markets.

I appreciate the progress that has occurred at CFTC subsequent to that hearing.

There is not an understanding I think, perhaps, of the scope of what this means if you are to take in all of the different types of derivati...

If we do not put it aside, this is going to be a very, very large set of problems and sums of money and implications.