10/22/2024
https://transcripts.cnn.com...
"Are we being regarded as a co-regulator and a partner, or are we being regarded as a regulated polluter?"
"the cities should be regarded not as regulated polluters but... Partners, or even co-regulators."
"the biggest thing we need is partnership, the ability to take, for example, a more sophisticated measure of affordability into account"
"We are doing downspout disconnect... making it easier for residents to have those go into the yard where the soil will drink up some of it."