Mike Pence: “If the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will know to get ready for battle?”

The way that he did. So you know we have, we haven't chatted in a while, but yeah, I, you know, I'll be honest with you, that I'll never minimize what happened on January 6.

I had no problem with the president pardoning people who got caught up in that day.

I’ll never minimize what happened on January 6. I’ll always believe, by God’s grace, we did our duty that day… the peaceful transfer of power under the Constitution.

My only purpose was to keep my oath.