Mike Braun actually said...

Thank you, Chairman Casey, and thank you to all witnesses for being here.

I think this has a potential to be a very important tool to get at the insulation between the top and bottom layers.

I think it is important whatever we do in terms of legislation, that we don't make it more difficult for the reasons of economic necessity.

we were borrowing 20 cents on every dollar that we spend. Now it is up to 30 cents