John Shimkus actually said...

Isn't that preferable than fighting through the courts and having citizen suits across the country?

I think the discussion draft basically identifies a base standard, and I think it is pretty clear.

I think that is something we could--I mean, my understanding of your testimony is that there are four things you kind of like.

And if there is, obviously, abuse, which I think some people fear, don't you think that the public would be aghast and may want to take retr...