04/17/2012
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"Is that not also the definition of fraud?"
"If I could just add something, I think it should not come as a surprise to any of us that someone who goes to prison because they didn't feel they had any opportunity or any options, we shouldn't be s..."
"I would like to say that is what these regulations are about."
"I do believe your testimony has been directed at informing us with the best answers you can deliver in a truthful fashion."