Let me just take your argument, then, down to the conclusion, which will be, if I respond to your question, you'll ask me another and another and another, and it will get down to have they been convicted in a court of law and are you sure that it was a legitimate case and is it under appeal and has it gone to the Supreme Court? We can never reach a conclusion on this. The gentleman knows that. So we have to make a judgment call and that's----
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