Chuck Grassley actually said...

whistleblowers are still fired, still demoted, still discredited, and oftentimes ostracized, all for doing what I consider a very patriotic ...

Thank you very much. I am glad you are having this hearing.

The way they act, then you find out they do not respect whistleblowers.

That is the only way to say that the culture needs to be changed if the President says it needs to be changed.