That's why this has been so hard, because neither side, up to now, has been willing to give on some of these things.

If there aren't concessions, if one side gets everything they want, that's called surrender. That's called the end of the war through surrender.

Well, first of all, it's not just kids. It's a bunch of adults that are accompanying them.

What those things are is going to be up to both sides. There's no conditions that can be imposed on Ukraine.

I'm not saying we're on the verge of a peace deal, but I am saying that we saw movement.

Ukraine is a sovereign country. They have a right, like every sovereign country does in the world, to have – to enter into security alliances with other countries to prevent an invasion in the future.

But if he did this now – the moment the president puts those additional sanctions, that's the end of the talks.

we need to create a scenario where that becomes possible. And that's why this has been so hard, because neither side, up to now, has been willing to give on some of these things.

What we’re trying to do right now is end the war.

In order for there to be a peace deal – this is just a fact. We may not like it, it may not be pleasant, it may be distasteful, but in order for there to be an end of the war, there are things Russia wants that it cannot get, and there are…

The Europeans want us involved. The Ukrainians want us involved.

Both sides are going to have to give up something in order to get to the table in order to make this happen. That's – that's just the way it is.