E. Clay Shaw, Jr.: “Ms. Norton, am I correct in saying that what you are talking about is the biggest tax increase in the history of this…”

Because it was not paid for. It was a budget buster, and this is something that I feel is very irresponsible. We are not helping--we are not helping even the kids on welfare----

Let me share this with the gentlewoman then: We sent our welfare bill, which has the training that you want, has the job search that you want, supplies a job at the end of the time, which you want even though we may disagree on how much…

Oh, Ms. Norton, I am sure you will be quite surprised to know I agree with you. She should be trained. And this is exactly what the Republican bill has said. The Republican bill says that this woman who is on welfare deserves a second…

And what have you, the Democrats, done to take the lead in the House on welfare reform? I very much want to know that because I am on the committee that has jurisdiction.