09/24/2013
https://www.congress.gov...
"It is hard to believe that we find ourselves looking, instead of at a sea of black ink where we were 10, 11 years ago, at a sea of red ink."
"I think there is a bit of a moral imperative here for us to get better results for less money."
"So the financial incentives might be working just the opposite."
"how do we harness market forces in this situation to reduce this kind of illegal behavior? Or can we?"