02/08/2021
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"Our friends in Europe are up to their eyeballs in alligators and we are trying to help them help themselves."
"I think it is fair to say that DHS has really taken action to put in place some of the building blocks."
"How would you characterize the apportionment of this progress?"
"Sometimes, we pass legislation around here that addresses symptoms of problems, but not root causes."