Tom Carper actually said...

We have a reluctance in this country to pay for things, things that we need to have.

Carper discusses the reluctance to fund essential infrastructure projects.

12/05/2017

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Okay, thanks.

I would urge you to think about that some more beyond this, and my hope is your staff here will be thinking about that.

About the prison system?

we are still going to have huge budget deficits. Huge budget deficits.