Tom Carper actually said...

"If we want to recover these monies, in some cases prevent the fraud from occurring but recover monies that have been defrauded."

"Let me come back to, I think, Ms. King and also Mr. Blum on the next question."

"The next step is to go out and recover the money that has been improperly paid if there is a recovery to be had."

"I also understand that there is still considerable debate over inherently safer technologies."