Tom Carper actually said...

I think we are really still at the starting gate.

But, we could say, well, we are getting $600 million, $700 million, that is a pretty good way to measure success.

I also understand that there is still considerable debate over inherently safer technologies.

But we are not making enough, as you know, and I feel and I think my colleagues feel there is a certain passion to want to step this up.