05/11/2009
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"One of the concerns, primarily among Democrats but also by Republicans and some Independents, is how do we reduce entitlement spending without significantly cutting benefits and inflicting real harm o..."
"The enormous waste and fraud challenges that we have...call out for very large efforts."
"I want to lower expectations. It is actually $20 billion over 10 years, but if you can do the $20 billion a year, we will take it."
"What else can we be doing?"