Tom Carper actually said...

My recollection it was defeated something like 86 to 14. So you are not the only person who feels that population by itself is not sufficient.

Carper recalls a past vote against a population-focused amendment.

03/15/2022

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The value of transparency, the value of openness, the value of all opportunities for people to be heard is terribly important.

What other approaches did you consider and why did you settle on this BRAC-like approach?

I think you mentioned as much as $15 billion over 3 years.

I think that is what is going to happen.