Tom Carper actually said...

We have a huge budget deficit, as we know, $1.3 trillion this year, huge increase--a decade ago we had a balanced budget and a surplus.

So in terms of the meaningfulness of 8 or 17, that is just a drop in the bucket, isn't it?

They do a great job with the resources they have, but they haven't had enough since 2006.

Something tells me that there is something wrong.