Tom Carper actually said...

If you have great leadership, you have a fighting chance to be successful. If you do not, you are probably doomed.

One of the things is that, as hard as they work, they never get thanked.

I think he is an excellent choice, and we will have a hearing, and we are doing our vetting for him right now.

The most important element of any organization I have ever been a part of or seen is leadership.