Tom Carper actually said...

"My sense in listening to your testimony and earlier hearings that we have had is that we also need a comprehensive approach with respect to real property management."

"We actually lease more space than we own."

"I would ask you, Mr. Wise, I am going to ask you to walk us through why we have this incentive, I think a misincentive, disincentive?"

"Executive Order (EO) No. 1, fix it."