John Carney actually said...

I am fairly new to the body. I was elected in 2010, one of the few Democrats.

We talk about that all the time, by the way, pay for performance and all that. It is hard to do.

It is not easy, particularly when you get people in the room who have different perspectives on taxing, on spending.

We don't have to do that at all here, in terms of making those difficult decisions.