David Shulkin: “How could you argue against wanting veterans to have choice and the best type of care?”

I wasn't willing to do that. I don't think that's the right thing for veterans and I stood up against them.

We just have to do more.

Slowing down and pausing to see what the consequences are, even if they are unintended consequences, is important to do.

But like any business, the times change, the needs change and it's time for us to look at how we operate our networks differently to get the type of accountability that's needed to make sure we don't see the failures that we saw here in…