David Shulkin: “We need to be trying harder.”

I wasn't willing to do that. I don't think that's the right thing for veterans and I stood up against them.

I received a phone call saying that the President wanted to make a change, and that's certainly his prerogative to do that, and that's what happened.

But like any business, the times change, the needs change and it's time for us to look at how we operate our networks differently to get the type of accountability that's needed to make sure we don't see the failures that we saw here in…

If that is true, let me make it clear right now, that should not be followed.