06/12/2022
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"If I may, I question whether that can survive as a model either."
"Well, I just--my time is just about up but I would note I haven't heard anybody cite data, and since this is the Science Committee, we are data-driven."
"the current model is going to fall apart."
"I agree which is why I am a cosponsor of the bill, but I think even if the bill does not pass, this model is dead."