Xavier Becerra: “so the example that I gave still applies, that there is not always a need for physical force in order for these enhanced…”

“so the example that I gave still applies, that there is not always a need for physical force in order for these enhanced penalties to attach. I think the gentleman left the impression that, unless someone went out there and committed physical force, that witness or juror tampering could not include the enhanced penalties. Those are the prerequisites. I just thought that the gentleman's point is well made. There are other things besides physical force. But I thought that the illustration the gentleman gave would have been a father talking with a witness without any offering of a bribe or any intimidation the way the gentleman described it. That is a mild enough version that I do not think we could get the fellow on the underlying crime. That is all.”