07/07/2021
https://www.msnbc.com...
"I have different solutions than Donald Trump and J.D. Vance."
"I think the parts that people had a problem with was when he asked Charlie Kirk for advice."
"I have no problem with Governor Newsom having dialogue with people on the other side."
"Well, what I don't understand is why Trump and Vance are using sticks when it comes to Zelenskyy and using carrots and soft language when it comes to Putin."