Mark DeSaulnier: “But my personal experience, like our witnesses today, from very divergent backgrounds, they have all had the same…”

We already have a universal health care system in this country, it is just really bad.

It is unfortunate there are--there is work we can do with ERISA, clearly, but being as partisan as you just introduced this...

I am concerned by the proposals to take us backward.

That was the most extreme in the ten years I have been here in Congress.